Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

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n0nspaz
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Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by n0nspaz » 09 Nov 2016 20:04

PC, Cubase, Win7-64, Asus X99 mobo

1. Am I correct in saying that a solid, proven turn-key recommendation would be an Iiyama ProLite 42" ? And choosing the Iiyama eliminates the DIY glass, framing, etc required with an LED TV+PQ Labs screen solution, correct ?

Any other absolutely proven setups I should consider?
I am located in the US.

2. What are the graphics card requirements/recommendations ?

3. Any conflicts with the Softube Console 1? (The user guide does NOT state that it uses Mackie HUI protocol)

Thanks all, looking forward to building my setup.

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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by DAW-Support » 09 Nov 2016 21:39

On number 3:

No problems running Console 1 and Dtouch at the same time. Both use completly different ways of interacting with your DAW.

cheers,
mathias

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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by DT_bettinzana » 10 Nov 2016 00:46

DAW-Support wrote:On number 3:

No problems running Console 1 and Dtouch at the same time. Both use completly different ways of interacting with your DAW.

cheers,
mathias
Mmm, wait a moment ... this is not correct.

n0nspaz: can you contact support@deviltechnologies.com? If you own the "Console 1", we can instruct you to perform some test to check a potential conflict between DTouch and Console 1.
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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by DT_bettinzana » 10 Nov 2016 00:51

n0nspaz wrote:PC, Cubase, Win7-64, Asus X99 mobo

1. Am I correct in saying that a solid, proven turn-key recommendation would be an Iiyama ProLite 42" ? And choosing the Iiyama eliminates the DIY glass, framing, etc required with an LED TV+PQ Labs screen solution, correct ?

Any other absolutely proven setups I should consider?
I am located in the US.

2. What are the graphics card requirements/recommendations ?
Can you check if you can purchase the iiyama touchmonitor in the US? Unfortunately, I know that iiyama is not very well represented in the States.

No particular requirements for the graphic card!
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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by n0nspaz » 10 Nov 2016 06:14

i see. could someone point me toward the recommended turn-key, off the shelf screens available in the US please. i only know of the DIY PG labs.

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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by DT_bettinzana » 10 Nov 2016 13:59

n0nspaz wrote:i see. could someone point me toward the recommended turn-key, off the shelf screens available in the US please. i only know of the DIY PG labs.
I am not sure, but 3M could have something. Anyway, they are not cheap!
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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by n0nspaz » 10 Nov 2016 18:16

This is what I have found out about 42" options for US residents:

- Iiyama 5044733000 ProLite LH4265S-B1 106.7cm/42 Klasse LED-Display Digital EUR1002 US $1,096.89 ebay
- 3M™ 42" Multi-Touch Display C4267PW Native Resolution: 1920 x 1080 $3,266.94 list
- I have inquired about pricing & availability of the PQ Labs G4S 'Basic' (6-touchpoint) overlay in the US

note- I read here on the forum that the IIyamas have 6-9ms response time. The response time of the PQ Labs does not seem to be published in the datasheet.

EDIT: reply from PQ:
Thank you for contacting PQ Labs,
All of our overlays work with Windows XP, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10. The response time of our overlays is between 7-12ms.

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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by Constantine » 12 Nov 2016 20:09

My 42" iiyama ProLite (TF4237MSC) has 6ms response time. Working flawlessly under win7 64bit and win10 64bit. Anyway, if you have the money, 3M™ is a very good brand. I'm looking forward to read about the progress with your setup.

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Constantine

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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by DT_bettinzana » 14 Nov 2016 14:52

n0nspaz wrote:This is what I have found out about 42" options for US residents:

- Iiyama 5044733000 ProLite LH4265S-B1 106.7cm/42 Klasse LED-Display Digital EUR1002 US $1,096.89 ebay
If the online infos are correct, this model is a display only, not a touchscreen.
n0nspaz wrote:- 3M™ 42" Multi-Touch Display C4267PW Native Resolution: 1920 x 1080 $3,266.94 list
Eh, I told you that they are not cheap!
n0nspaz wrote:- I have inquired about pricing & availability of the PQ Labs G4S 'Basic' (6-touchpoint) overlay in the US

note- I read here on the forum that the IIyamas have 6-9ms response time. The response time of the PQ Labs does not seem to be published in the datasheet.

EDIT: reply from PQ:
Thank you for contacting PQ Labs,
All of our overlays work with Windows XP, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10. The response time of our overlays is between 7-12ms.
PQ Labs declares a sensor "scan rate" of 200-250Hz; this doesn't translate in a 1/200 s or 1/250 s response-time (like declared by Slate MT), because scan frequency is only partially related to the response-time (I could be more detailed about this, if you want). Like saying that a 48 KHz audio interface has an audio latency of 1/48000 s (0.02 ms :shock: ).

Anyway I think that 10-20 ms response time is a great performance figure.
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Re: Dtouch displays, Softube Console 1, graphics card

Post by n0nspaz » 14 Nov 2016 15:37

reply from PQ Labs :
For pro audio installations, I would recommend giving some thought to our G5 line of overlays. The G5 has a higher touch resolution and faster refresh rate when compared to our G4 series. This results in more accurate, faster, and smoother touch response from the overlay.

You would benefit from the G5 series for more accurate and precise adjustment of sliders or knobs. This is due to the higher touch resolution of our G5 series and faster refresh rate.

For TV display, some recommendations are: A 16:9 aspect ratio, minimum ½ inch bezel, and no buttons or speakers on the front of the bezel.
PQ Labs G5S 42 inches Overlay 4K - Basic Version --- approx $760 shipped to USA

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