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Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 18 Oct 2018 17:07
by DT_bettinzana
Home Studio 87 wrote:
18 Oct 2018 14:08
is there something new in 4.14 ? (exept the "error" message cause Cubase is now 9.5.40) :?
No, it is only tested with the last version of Cubase.
Home Studio 87 wrote:
18 Oct 2018 14:08
And a little request if it's possible : To have the DTouch Toolbar be "on the top" of the DTouch windows (Macros folder and Floating Mixer), but not "on the top" of the Cubase windows "always on the top" (plugins...). :? :? :oops:
We will check what we can do.

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 19 Oct 2018 06:11
by orthogonalrecords
Home Studio 87 wrote:
18 Oct 2018 14:08
And a little request if it's possible : To have the DTouch Toolbar be "on the top" of the DTouch windows (Macros folder and Floating Mixer), but not "on the top" of the Cubase windows "always on the top" (plugins...). :? :? :oops:
+1 on that request. Plugin-GUIs are hidden behind the toolbar. That's a waste of screenspace in my opinion.

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 21 Oct 2018 11:59
by Home Studio 87
Another thing, it's possible to have the floating mixer not being controlled by the mousewheel ?
Try to explain : Each time I use the mousewheel (Or CMC AI / Powermate) for editing plugin button the fader section of the floating mixer move from left to right or right to left depending on the mousewheel action... :(

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 21 Oct 2018 18:07
by pablo1980
Yes. I use the mixer zones to park some channels (like the film dialog track) and a lot of the time they are not where I left them. I think this wheel behavior could be the culprit.

I too vote for an option to disable it

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 23 Oct 2018 09:23
by Constantine
+1 "Plugin-GUIs are hidden behind the toolbar." Need to close DTouch temporarily for some plugin... however it closes and open very fast.

Posted: 24 Oct 2018 13:48
by Support Team
A new BETA release of DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo is available.

The new version, v1.4.15BETA, is available for download from our website.

New features:
  • Home Studio 87 wrote:
    21 Oct 2018 11:59
    Another thing, it's possible to have the floating mixer not being controlled by the mousewheel ?
    This can now be configured in the Settings, using the "Scroll Tracks with Mouse Wheel" checkbox in the "Floating Mixer Settings" group
  • DTouch now creates its own virtual MIDI ports, without the need of loopMIDI or any other external software. (This applies to the MIDI port used by DTouch to control Expression Maps, and for the DTouch MIDI-CC send feature). You should update your Cubase/Nuendo configuration in order to use this new port; which will be created the first time that you start DTouch.

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 24 Oct 2018 21:05
by Home Studio 87
Thank you…. 8-)

Posted: 25 Oct 2018 09:15
by Support Team
Home Studio 87 wrote:
18 Oct 2018 14:08
And a little request if it's possible : To have the DTouch Toolbar be "on the top" of the DTouch windows (Macros folder and Floating Mixer), but not "on the top" of the Cubase windows "always on the top" (plugins...). :? :? :oops:
Although you can fit this request in as low as two lines of text, unfortunately this is not actually a little request :(

TL;DR: This cannot be done in a way that helps your workflow in any meaningful way.
The quickest and most effective workaround against the DTouch Toolbar being temporarily over some other window is to minimize it to the Windows Taskbar, and then bring it back. This would likely mean that you should keep the Windows Taskbar "auto-hide" feature off, or you'll be forced to use your mouse for un-minimizing DTouch.


~ Detailed explanation ~
About having the DTouch Toolbar being over other DTouch windows: this can be done by acting on the "TOPMOST" button of the DTouch Floating Mixer, turning it off; and similarly for DTouch Folders, by acting on the "FOLDERS TOPMOST" Standard Function button, turning it off.
This has some drawbacks: now the Floating Mixer and DTouch Folders will go behind any other window that comes to front, and you will never be able to bring them to the front, because they have a non-activate behavior. This has been done in order to let you interact with Cubase/Nuendo, press a button on a DTouch Folder, and then go ahead interacting with Cubase/Nuendo (maybe typgin on the keyboard, without the need to bring the Cubase/Nuendo window to the front again. This non-activate behavior is essential for a good workflow which actually helps you be fast and productive, concentrating on your work instead of spending time bringing windows to the front.

Now, let's go ahead for the second part of the request: having the DTouch Toolbar behind the Cubase "always on the top" windows.
These windows, when you enable their "always on the top" attribute, have a strange behavior: once you are working with Cubase/Nuendo to the front, they are really "on the top"; however, once you bring another application to the front (think for example a Windows folder window, or the Calculator), they completely disappear.
This is why we designed nearly all DTouch windows with a "non-activate" behavior: so that you can continue to work in Cubase without distractions because of these bring-the-window-to-the-front microtasks.

Now, let's imagine that we remove the topmost attribute from the DTouch Toolbar, which is the root DTouch window after you press RUN, the one from which you can launch all the others: this window will go behind Cubase/Nuendo, after you bring them to the front. So, what you'll see on the screen now, from back to the front, will be:
  • DTouch Toolbar
  • DTouch Folders / Floating Mixer
  • Cubase/Nuendo
  • Plugins
On a single screen, you get that DTouch and its windows are now to the back, and you will never be able to bring them to the front, until you close the DTouch GUI and hit RUN again.
On a dual-screen configuration, if you dedicate one screen to Cubase and the other to Plugins + DTouch, this will be somewhat better.
However, you can see that the DTouch Toolbar is now behind of the DTouch Folders and Floating Mixer, since these are child windows of the DTouch Toolbar, and so they opened after the DTouch Toolbar. So, again, not what you want.

We got this request from many users, and we spent countless hours experimenting with different window options, but the conclusion is: DTouch has now the best compromise of functionalities that really help you with your workflow.

The typical usage is:
  • Single-screen users will leave Floating Mixer and DTouch Folders "TOPMOST" attribute on, or they won't be able to see them because Cubase hides them behind its GUI
  • Multi-screen users may turn off the Floating Mixer and/or DTouch Folders "TOPMOST" attribute, in order to allow Cubase plugins to be over them. In this case, the DTouch windows act just like a "wallpaper", which sits behind the Plugin windows.

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 25 Oct 2018 10:00
by Tumppi
I'd like to see toolbar "foldable". So every section of it could be collapsed if user needed/wanted. This way it wouldn't take so much space on my precious screen.

Re: New DTouch for Cubase+Nuendo v1.4.9 BETA

Posted: 28 Oct 2018 00:49
by Home Studio 87
Another idea for the DTouch toolbar (if possible) : the possibilities to "minimise" the DTouch toolbar without minimizing the other macros folder already open…. :? :? :?