This seems like a good aspect ratio for a touch screen

[DT_bettinzana]

I guess you could do an external mixer in stead of an overlay, like you've done with Cubase, but IIRC that would have sever limitations due to the HUI standard. Banking is limited to groups of 8 via HUI, for example, correct?

Yes, the HUI protocol has limitations, but it depends on what you must do.
No, the banks are number_of_connected_HUI_MIDI_ports*8. DTouch for PT uses 4 ports (the maximum) => bank is 4*8=32 Chs large.

If that's the stand alone external touch mixer is not possible, I guess you could have a custom external mixer on the bottom screen WHILE the PT mixer is visible on the top screen. That way you could have an overlay on that, visual or not, that is remote controlled by the remote mixer on the bottom screen, to give you the benefits of the overlay approach. I'll probably never edit and mix at the same time, it's just about having the mixer and the edit window on dedicated touch surfaces which are angled at an optimum angle for each task.

Another option is: it doesn't have to be be exactly half of the pixels, vertically.
I just think that a normal 16:9 27" as a flat mixer and then a 16:9 screen behind it at 45º for editing will be too far away.
So practically, we need to bring that screen closer to us, to make it ergonomic.
So maybe using not half, but 2/3 of the vertical pixels of the 'mixer' screen is enough to make it ergonomic.

If you look at the Waves LV1 setup with 2x24" screen, it already seems quite ergonomic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uBTaEZ ... gs=pl%2Cwn
So maybe it's just a matter of a little. Or maybe a 24" touch screen for the mixer is enough and better than 27".

Eh, 23"-24" is appreciably smaller than 27" in this case.

Or maybe just a 27" with a custom resolution, but maybe not take away 50% of the vertical pixels.
That's a lot of maybe's.

We'll see if I can get that custom resolution to work first

OK, test that SW and we will see if it can be a good starting point.

[~ufo~]

So I tested this today.

The software allows you to create custom resolutions, which is cool.
The problem is that my Iiyama T27 doesn't allow me to move that image down, so it stays vertically centred, with black bars above and bellow, as is seen in the pictures.

I've emailed the developer to see if he has any more suggestions.

[DT_bettinzana]

Can you tweak that "Back porch 576 vertical lines"?

[~ufo~]

Can you tweak that "Back porch 576 vertical lines"?

Yes I’m experimenting with that.
I’m
Thinking I should actually flip those numbers with front porch, to get it to go down but my monitor is giving an out of range error so far.
I’ll play around with it and see...

[DT_bettinzana]

If you change the "Back porch", does the "driver GUI" automatically recalculate the "Blanking" and "Total"?

[~ufo~]

If you change the "Back porch", does the "driver GUI" automatically recalculate the "Blanking" and "Total"?

Yes it does and the scan rate too, which is why I add the same amount from one porch that I subtract from the other. To keep the total the same. Those arrows help with that.

The problem I have is when I increase the vertical front porch and decrease the vertical back porch, what happens is the image doesn’t go down, but it stretched vertically on the monitor. This may be a problem with the iiyama but I’m not sure. I’ll make a screenshot to be sure.

[~ufo~]

I don't think my Iiyama will accept a signal like that without 'interpreting' it.
if anyone has a different brand touch screen and is willing to try it, be my guest.

It's just an experiment really, I'm happy with my setup and I'm not even convinced a second screen is worth the hassle and will actually bring that much more to the table.

Regardless, to make this second ultrawide touch surface useable, it would need to a new generation screen with much thinner bezels (lik the new 24" offerings from Iiyama, Acer and Dell), and so should ideally be the main, hovering screen.
None of these companies are currently offering those new models in 27" though and I'm not at all sure that they will.

[DT_bettinzana]

Hello ~ufo~
some news about your experiments with that SW tool?

BTW, I was in Munchen in the last 4 days for Electronica 2018 and I have seen some interesting displays with a stretch form factor (often the resolution is 1920*540) and they have a very good size.
Just for the sake of curiosity: what would be a good price for such a screen in your opinion?

[~ufo~]

I haven't had the time to experiment more, now.

Yeah those stretched screens are certainly interesting.

I guess if it's a smaller 15-17" stretched touch screen, I'd say 300-400 ex VAT, for a larger 24-26" I'd say 400-700 ex.
I realise this is probably too little for such a niche product, but those are an indication of the priced I would personally be willing to pay.
If it's more than that, I'd have to ask myself whether I really need it.

[DT_bettinzana]

I haven't had the time to experiment more, now.

Yeah those stretched screens are certainly interesting.

I guess if it's a smaller 15-17" stretched touch screen, I'd say 300-400 ex VAT, for a larger 24-26" I'd say 400-700 ex.
I realise this is probably too little for such a niche product, but those are an indication of the priced I would personally be willing to pay.
If it's more than that, I'd have to ask myself whether I really need it.

OK, thank you!
I will check the price. I have seen products for the industrial market. They cannot be used immediately because they are designed to be incorporated in other pieces of equipment, so they need a video driving board, a power supply module, a chassis, etc ...
I will request a price for quantities and I will try to understand if the price can fit your (and other users) target.